2009 Honda Civic Fuel System Problems

WHEN I START MY CAR AND DRIVE IT AS SOON I STOP ANYWHERE I SMELL GAS ALL AROUND THE CAR

AFTER DRIVING THE VEHICLE AND STOPPING TO PARK, WE SMELLED THE SCENT OF GASOLINE. BROUGHT THE CAR TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP AND THEY FOUND A "FLAW" WHERE THE GAS NOZZEL/NECK CONNECTION (OR WELD) TO THE MAIN GAS TANK WAS SLOWLY LEAKING GAS. THE SERVICE PERSON AT THE HONDA DEALERSHIP HAD NEVER SEEN THAT KIND OF FLAW OR DEFECT BEFORE. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE ORDER A NEW GAS TANK WITH THE GAS NOZZEL/NECK CONNECTOR. I'M THINKING THE WELD BETWEEN THE TWO PARTS MAY BE A WEAK LINK ON CARS SIMILAR TO OURS AND WANT TO REPORT IT.

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON. AN INDEPENDENT GARAGE SCANNED THE CODE AS P2422 EVAP EMISSION SYSTEM VENT VALVE STUCK CLOSED. FUEL TANK DOES NOT SEEM TO FILL ALL THE WAY, AND SOMETIMES A FUEL ODER IS PRESENT. ONLINE SEARCH MENTIONED THERE IS A TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN #11-036 FOR THIS CODE. TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER ON 8/19/16 AS PART OF THE AIRBAG RECALL. DEALER MENTIONED THERE IS NO RECALL FOR P2422, AND THERE IS NO EMISSIONS WARRANTY THAT COVERS THIS ISSUE.

2009 HONDA CIVIC GX HAS AN INTERMITTENT COLD START / HARD START / NO START PROBLEM. IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 30 SECONDS TO EIGHT MINUTES TO GET THE CAR TO STARTED. ON A FEW OCCASIONS I GAVE UP TRYING TO START THE CAR AND DROVE MY TRUCK INSTEAD. ORIGINALLY THE PROBLEM WAS OCCURRING ABOUT ONCE A WEEK TO ONCE A MONTH. I HAVE HAD THE CAR DIE WHILE DRIVING AND WOULDN'T RESTART. SINCE JAN 25TH 2012 MY CAR HAS BEEN AT THE HONDA DEALER FOR A TOTAL OF NEARLY 12 WEEKS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THE DEALER HAS HAD MY CAR FOR THE LAST 9 WEEKS STRAIGHT AND HAS BEEN UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE STARTING PROBLEMS. CURRENTLY IT WILL NOT START ABOUT 50 PERCENT OF THE TIME. WHILE MY CAR IS FUELED BY CNG (COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS) I HAVE FOUND NUMEROUS 2008, 2009, 2010 AND 2011 HONDA'S WITH HARD START / COLD START COMPLAINTS IDENTICAL TO THE PROBLEMS MY CAR. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE CARS AND MINE IS MINE IS FUELED BY CNG WHILE THE REST OF THE HONDA CIVICS ARE ALL GASOLINE POWERED. WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=YZKQQQG9L8W IN THIS VIDEO THE CAR HAD ONLY BEEN SITTING 8 HOURS FROM WHEN I LAST STARTED THE CAR. WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/WATCH?V=3EICT...EATURE=CHANNEL 2009 HONDA CIVIC COLD START PROBLEM. IN THIS VIDEO I HAD ALREADY ATTEMPTED TO START THE CAR FOR ABOUT A MINUTE OR MORE PRIOR TO ME STARTING TO VIDEO IT ON MY PHONE. THE TEMPERATURE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO START THE CAR WAS 44 DEGREES THOUGH THE OVERNIGHT LOW WAS ABOUT 35 DEGREES. *TR

BOUGHT 2009 HONDA CIVIC WITH 5 MILES ON IT. HAVE HAD INTERMITTENT STARTING PROBLEMS WHERE THE CAR WILL NOT CRANK OVER OR "CATCH". BROUGHT IT TO DEALERS ATTENTION AND THEY HAD THE CAR IN FOR 2 DAYS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEM. THEY WENT THROUGH THE CAR AND REPLACED "SOMETHING" BUT I WAS NOT TOLD WHAT IT WAS NOR WAS I GIVEN PAPER WORK. CAR SEEMED TO BE FINE FOR THE SUMMER. NOW THAT WEATHER IS COOLING OFF, CAR IS EXPERIENCING SAME INTERMITTENT STARTING PROBLEMS. CALL DEALER TO REPORT IT AGAIN AND WAS ASKED IF THE CAR HAD GAS IN IT.....SERIOUSLY? I RESPONDED YES AND THAT IT WAS THE 2 ND TIME IN 4 DAYS THAT IT WOULD NOT START, SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE WHEN THE CAR SITS FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS. CAR WILL NOT CRANK OVER AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS. LAST INCIDENT LASTED MORE THAN 2 MINUTES OF TRYING TO START ENGINE. NO WARNING LIGHTS COME ON THE DASHBOARD AND IT IS NOT A BATTERY ISSUE. I HAVE YET TO HAVE THE DEALER CORRECT THIS ISSUE. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT MY KEY CHAIN WAS TOO HEAVY, THAT I SHOULD ONLY CRANK IT FOR MAX 15 SECONDS AND THEN WAIT AND TRY AGAIN, TURN KEY TO ACCESSORY AND WAIT A FEW SECONDS. I HAVE TAKEN OFF ALL "HEAVY" ITEMS OFF MY KEY CHAIN, CHANGED TO THE SPARE KEY AND YET NOTHING SEEMS TO RESOLVE. HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD I HAVE BAD GAS IN VEHICLE. *TR